Why did HULK not get angrier when thanos was beating him?
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BridgerRT572025-11-28 17:35
he was getting whooped. i’m sure he was angry but seeing someone stronger than him definitely affected the Hulk. that fight was basically over before it started. also they loved to nerf Hulk for absolutely no reason in the MCU
Taint-tastic2025-11-28 17:37
“For no reason” well the reason is because if they didnt he would be ridiculously OP. You can get away with that easier in a comic book than movie. Hulk being basically unkillable as long as hes gets angrier is kinda boring in a movie
RightSideBlind2025-11-28 17:49
There's a vast spectrum between "Thanos easily smacks Hulk around" and "Hulk defeats Thanos", though.
My reaction during that scene wasn't "Oh my god, look at how powerful Thanos is"- it was "Oh, look- Hulk is the new Worf."
blong2172025-11-28 17:52
See my reaction was "Oh shit Thanos is just that strong..."
HotPotParrot2025-11-28 17:57
Especially after seeing how he handled Fenris and Surtur. Dude had no qualms about launching himself at a literal prophecy that ended a *world* in one strike. Thanos is the same size and is entirely unfazed.
Hulk finally understood what his own foes experience.
j4_jjjj2025-11-28 18:13
This is it, it was the first time in a long time that he was scared
TheObstruction2025-11-28 18:27
What are you talking about? Surtur peeled Hulk off like a wet bandaid, then tossed him miles away.
HotPotParrot2025-11-28 18:37
Yep, and Hulk was about to get right back to it. "Big monster...!!" Thanos is the same size as Hulk and brushed *him* off even harder than Surtur did.
Remote-Moon2025-11-28 18:12
Not just strong but Thanos knew how to fight. The Hulk is just pure strength.
mbanson2025-11-28 18:53
Yeah not sure why people focus on Hulk getting wrecked 1 v 1 vs the big bad of the infinity saga but ignore that Thor got his ass beat off screen after we just saw him get a major jump in power where he nearly beat Hulk in the last appearance.
darthxavien2025-11-28 18:08
I actually wish he had required the power stone. I wish he used it to juice his strength and between that increase plus his skill, *then* easily outmatched Hulk. I feel like that would have been less plot convenience theater.
Tjockr2025-11-28 18:20
My reaction was “ dam thanos got hands”
DonJohn5203102025-11-28 18:31
My reaction was "There's no way a spaceship could hold together during that fight." I honestly thought that at some point a piece of the ship was going to have to break off.
Alleggsander2025-11-28 18:28
Idk, it wouldn’t fit the MCU but I’d kill for a movie adaptation of OBA Hulk
GreyFoxNinjaFan2025-11-28 17:40
Hulk is the Worf of the MCU. In order to demonstrate a character is tough/strong/badass, Worf (as the physically strongest person on the Enterprise) has to get tossed around some.
tenehemia2025-11-28 17:49
I always disliked the Worf Effect because Data is absolutely stronger than Worf so it's not even demonstrating against the strongest person, but they almost never did it with Data because nobody wanted to see him get overpowered.
DoctorOddfellow19812025-11-28 19:03
Worf is visually stronger than Data though. Watching the skinny robot get backhanded is not as visually impactful as seeing the huge muscular guy.
any-blue-91222025-11-28 17:41
They nerf him while literally everyone else especially Wanda gets glazed SO HARD. That hate boner exists for SPECIFICALLY Hulk and no one else
Osceola_Gamer2025-11-28 17:46
Thanos whooped Hulk in the comics as well. I know he used to keep him as a pet at one point.
Gan-san2025-11-28 17:46
Okay so Captain Marvel should end most conflicts in moments olif not seconds too, yet they have to nerf her or else the same hate brigade would come for her too. Oh wait, they hate her for existing at all.
TheeFlyGuy80002025-11-28 17:47
I mean Wanda just gets glazed in comics too
Broncsx32025-11-28 17:54
How about we stop saying “gets glazed”?
Internal_Ball21342025-11-28 18:02
He wasn't only strong but clearly trained to use his strength and had actual technique as opposed to just throwing hands like hulk is used to
Oafah2025-11-28 18:04
I don't even think it's that. I think it was an existential crisis for Hulk, hence his subsequent refusal to come out afterward. He had gained some degree of sentience and better self-awareness in Ragnarok, and noticed his purpose was sorely lacking. His ever-increasing power level fueled by his own anger had been subdued and replaced by his emerging, more sophisticated personality.
jayteee272025-11-29 03:21
Yeah i dig this. He gained more personality not just anger.
unreasonable-frog2025-11-28 18:09
> also they loved to nerf Hulk for absolutely no reason
I’m pretty sure it was always for plot reasons.
Ok-disaster20222025-11-28 18:21
Not sure for the MCU, but I thought comics hulk just keeps getting stronger and stronger if he's not taken down early?
Drelas_Hawke2025-11-28 17:36
So we could see Thanos beat him up, therefore showing how powerful he is.
RightSideBlind2025-11-28 17:47
Worf says "Hi".
TheRealMJDoombreed2025-11-28 18:05
Keep an eye out for those blue barrels.
Ill-Kaleidoscope48252025-11-29 09:16
Today *is* a good day for spinal surgery
evildrtran2025-11-28 18:06
Lol so true
XPav2025-11-28 18:17
Thanos is no blue barrel
feetandballs2025-11-28 18:36
Because it was act 1, duh
Narrow_Rough19492025-11-28 18:57
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SkywalkerRanchSauce2025-11-28 19:19
Putting over fresh talent brother
__sublime__12025-11-28 19:34

AFewNWords2025-11-28 19:33
Is no one mentioning that Thanos had The Power Stone in the gauntlet already
Obi_1_Kenobee2025-11-28 17:37
because the Russo bros don’t understand the character.
Hot-Salamander-87862025-11-28 17:43
Exactly! 💯
Hulk's whole personality is that the angrier he gets, the stronger he gets! I learned that growing up with the Marvel animated movies by Lionsgate Films. That's one of the few reasons why I didn't like the Avengers Endgame film. Sorry!
Realistic_Analyst_262025-11-28 18:08
I think they do understand him but found no way to utilize him properly with how everything was set up
Glass-Economy68882025-11-28 17:38
Nerf Hulk was nerfed.
I'll buy that Thanos could defeat him but not that damn easily.
Didn't it take Thanos less than a minute to defeat him?
MavetheGreat2025-11-28 17:47
Yeah, it was a little dumb. At least make it clear he's using the power stone so we didn't have posts like this every other month.
Glass-Economy68882025-11-28 17:54
I think Thanos could have defeated the Hulk even without the Power stone.
It would have taken more than a minute, though
Thanos was brilliant, very strong and ancient. He was a General. He understood combat. I believe he could have defeated the Hulk.
Liam_Roma_12342025-11-28 17:58
If he beat thor that easy then he could beat hulk easy too don't you think?
Glass-Economy68882025-11-28 17:59
Likely
kaiserswayze2025-11-28 18:03
Or acknowledge that Thanos probably prepped for hulk and studied. Hulk has to be taken out fast and off balanced so he can’t build up strength. Thanos probably figured this out and had a gameplan.
VasagiTheSuck2025-11-28 17:38
Hulk was afraid. Its right in the moment you have as a screenshot. You can see the disbelief and fear he has with someone outright as strong or stronger than he was.
OutlandishnessOk23042025-11-28 17:39
He did get angry, but he was dumb angry. Thanos was just as strong (if not stronger) and was a better boxer.
That's why he went into the lab during the blip and created Professor Hulk.
Spirited-Birthdaye2025-11-28 17:39
He was beaten into fear
Q_S22025-11-28 17:48
Lol idk why but this r/brandnewsentence definitely made me chuckle.
Beaten into fear. Love it
HUNGWHITEBOI252025-11-28 17:39
Hulk has never been this outclassed in the MCU before so he was likely scared rather than angry
Starfury19842025-11-28 18:05
I read it more as him being confused. He was used to the tactic: charge and smash away. But Thanos was not just eating and countering his punches like they were nothing, he was dishing them out himself - and he did it incredible fast, to fast for Hulk to realize what the hell was happening. He didn't have time to become angry.
SilverPalpitation6522025-11-28 18:42
Yeah, this is exactly what happened. Thanos beat the breaks off that boy and Hulk hid for the rest of the movie. Banner had to borrow the hulkbuster suit because Hulk was scared to come out and get that ass beat again.
Due-Elderberry-67982025-11-28 23:39
i disagree he was getting pummelled by the abomination for most of their fight up until the end where got strong enough to overpower him
skronk612025-11-28 17:40
I don’t think MCU Hulk had infinite anger power. He’s just a strong and durable guy
Liam_Roma_12342025-11-28 17:56
I think they showed his anger power quite well in the hulkbuster fight.
skronk612025-11-28 18:29
Yeah maybe, did they say that Bruce helped develop it with him?
SweatyEddie1232025-11-28 19:11
[Mcu hulk does get stronger with anger](https://ibb.co/39XWwzDV)
Bud_Bones_692025-11-28 17:40
Biggest disappointment what they did to Hulk in this movie, completely nerfed his character!
AnnieGoldleaf2025-11-28 17:40
It takes time for Hulk to get angrier. That's the whole key to beating Hulk is to quickly take him down before he has a chance to get going and that's what Thanos did.
27Rench272025-11-28 17:51
Yeah, I think they also showed this pretty well. Hulk actually looked like he wasn’t prepared for a technical fight and was stunned by Thanos’ strikes repeatedly
ThisIs_americunt2025-11-28 18:18
Because Thanos has *real* combat experience not just smashing stuff till you win lol
Mdad19882025-11-28 18:27
I like Thanos so much more as a villain than most (villains). He's got the skills to fight all the avengers without the stones, with them he clearly just toyed with them.
He went right thru caps shield which shows what quality weapons he's using, he is part eternal right? Kinda like he's his own justice league 😜
Ajj3602025-11-28 19:01
I prefer the comic death obsessed Thanos myself. The fatherly theme they gave him in the films never sat well with me. And his motivation for halving the population in the films is kind of stupid since he could have just used the gauntlet to will enough resources into existence.
aghastamok2025-11-28 19:14
We could have had lady death introduced already before she >!makes her surprise appearance as the love interest in Agatha All Along.!<
henry92062025-11-28 20:19
I thought hella was going to be his love interest when she was introduced. She was the closest to the personification of death at the time.
Long_Pig_Tailor2025-11-28 19:39
I think the motivation change made sense for the sake of wider audiences, but they kind of forgot that Thanos is, y'know, *mad*. The films treat his Malthusian catastrophizing as a different point of view when he's just *wrong*. Like, sucks for him the Titans were too dumb to save themselves (and hey, real world it looks like we may be too dumb too) but his complaints are addressable without genocide; the story never really takes time to actually demonstrate that Thanos is absolutely insane. Cool, clever, Hannibal Lecter insane, maybe, but insane all the same.
Loonytalker2025-11-28 19:46
I see this complaint on Thanos often. With the gauntlet he could simply have doubled resources instead of half the population. The point this argument misses, is that he was called The Mad Titan. Yes he could have used the gauntlet to double resources, but he was insane and fixated on his own crazy idea. I've unfortunately known far too many politicians on this planet to think this is an actual error in writing and not a common trait among those who seek power.
-Posthuman-2025-11-28 20:30
Yes, thank you! People get caught up in Thanos’ flawed reasoning, when the whole point is that it isn’t about logic.
His people died because they refused to go along with his plan to cull the population. It was insane. But it would have worked. They didn’t have an Infinity Gauntlet to make resources. So there is an argument to be made that Thanos was right.
And as a result, Thanos becomes obsessed, and feels vindicated to the point of zealotry. He’s insane. He only sees one possible solution. He *can only see* one possible solution.
Surely someone would have pointed out the option to create more resources instead. But we can easily assume he figured out some way to convince himself that wouldn’t work. In his mind, the only conceivable solution is killing half of all life. He is committed to the idea to such an extent that it is ingrained in his sense of self.
But then, in End Game, the facade falls away. The core of his motivation is the desire to not only execute his plan, but to be thanked for it. That’s the truth he himself likely didn’t even realize. He was scorned by his own people, who died because they wouldn’t listed to him. They “didn’t have the will to do what must be done”. He expected to be hailed a hero, not branded insane and exiled.
So when it becomes clear that no matter what, nobody is going to thank him, he immediately shifts to "I will shred this universe down to its last atom and then, with the Stones you've collected for me, create a new one teeming with life that knows not what it has lost, but only what it has been given. A grateful universe".
Thanos wasn’t stupid. Far from it. He was mad.
Chavarlison2025-11-28 22:35
He has the logic right though. Increasing the resources would not correct the way people have been consuming them mindlessly. Culling half of everyone would make sure everyone would self reflect on how the world is working. I thought that was, at least, shown on that Natasha Steve convo about the whales.
TotallyNormalSquid2025-11-28 23:18
Yeah. That'd work for a generation or two.
Real_Walk53842025-11-29 00:27
Furthermore, I think he realizes destroying half the universe will make people more concerned with sustainability whereas when you hand people things they tend not to give a shit and just ask for more.
People being short sighted is central to his beliefs but he fails to see the irony. He’s the mad titan.
HDPhantom6102025-11-28 20:30
I take it from a different angle. Thanos always talked about how grateful people would be when his work was finished. I think he believed it would teach the universe a lesson.
Double the resources is fine until the population quadruples thanks to all the resources. By doing this he felt like everyone would self-cull from then on.
Al3jandr02025-11-28 21:09
Also, even if he wasn't insane, doubling the universe's resources is just as problematic. Life would keep expanding and deplete those resources eventually. And worse, how do you define a "resource" when you make the snap? Does that include meat? Now you have more animals that need *more* food to reproduce. Is water a resource? Try doubling all the water and see what that does to life on a planet like Earth. Even with the reality-bending abilities of the stones, it's not a clean solution either.
Perfect-Swordfish2025-11-28 19:59
The thing is, he didn't wait to have (need)the stones to start his plan. With the stones he just had infinite reach
Naught2025-11-28 20:10
His motivation in the comics was to impress the personification of death by killing half the universe because he had an unrequited romantic obsession with it.
Just imagining incel thanos desperately trying to win over an entity that couldn’t care less in a big budget action movie would be hilarious. And incredibly stupid.
robodrew2025-11-28 19:13
In the comics at least, his sword is made of Uru metal, the same metal used for Mjolnir
AegonTargaryan2025-11-28 20:30
I just assumed it was Vibranium since it could cut the shield
PhatOofxD2025-11-28 22:25
Uru is stronger than Vibranium
Commercial-Set35272025-11-29 00:04
Not in the MCU. Caps shield shows it's on par with Mjølnir in Avengers
ModifiedGas2025-11-29 00:20
Probably because the hammer generates more of a vibration when it connects with vibranium and that’s what lets cap deflect the energy better.
Hypsar2025-11-29 00:22
That may be true, but I always took it as Thor used a large blunt object against a flat(ish) surface designed to reflect kinetic energy.
If Meowmewmir was an axe or sword, I imagine it could start to cut through Cap's shield.
LostAngelfish2025-11-29 09:28
I think the weapon Thanos fights with in Endgame is a reference to the Thanos Copter.
Less-Network-34222025-11-29 00:33
Thor swinging a blunt hammer isn't the same as Thanos (far bigger and stronger) swinging a sharp blade
crazedhotpotato2025-11-28 18:29
And he was prepared for most if not all threats on earth so new how to take him down.
ThisIs_americunt2025-11-28 18:45
I just watched it again and Hulk only ever smashes or pushes Thanos lol. While Thanos is doing strikes to the neck, back and stomach then finishing the fight with a knee to the face
Super66982025-11-28 19:36
I remember seeing a comment comparing the fight to a bully (Hulk) fighting a professionally trained boxer (Thanos)
robodrew2025-11-28 19:12
And he also had the power stone already, so he was probably magnitudes stronger than his already high base level of strength.
BeeCJohnson2025-11-28 19:24
Hulk is the biggest kid on the playground and that's his entire combat skillset.
ThanksContent282025-11-28 20:39
Tbh I hate this about MCU Hulk. His character doesn’t really progress like the others. The progression it does have, is just more of the Banner persona. I know he snapped everyone back, but it’s a crime that we never got to see Hulk and Thanos rematch, and this time they could’ve done a reveal that Banner/Hulk has actually been doing some combat training. Maybe even further characterise the Hulk persona, by having Banner mention that part of their agreement, was Hulk insisting they make sure they’re prepared so that never happens again.
In infinity war, he’s a pussy who refuses to come out, even though Banner himself has the courage to fight.
In endgame, he’s physically smaller, less bulky, and mostly a laid back, comedic-relief character. It’s basically just Banner. We don’t get a satisfying payoff imo. Raganarok characterised him really well, and finally gave him a personality. Then he’s basically killed off.
el_duderino882025-11-29 01:24
He should have learned to fight all those years he was a champion on Sakarr,, which was teased with his training with Valkyrie, but instead just brawling
Anteater_Able2025-11-29 02:23
Agree with you. The problem is that the Hulk has been shown to be such a powerful character in previous Avengers film (one-shotting the Chitauri Leviathan and ragdolling Loki were feats that trumped even Thor on the power scales) that the Russos admitted that they "nerfed him" and "didn't know what to do with him" in Infinity War and Endgame.
While I can see their point of view, they also say that he "deserved to get nerfed" which I don't agree with. Hulk, as a founding Avengers member, deserved just as much of a redemption arc as any of the other founders. Just seems like bias and lazy writing on their part when it comes to Hulk.
They also seemed to prioritize showing other characters get one over on Thanos like Captain Marvel and Scarlet Witch. With Scarlet Witch, I was somewhat okay with it because she wanted revenge for Vision but Captain Marvel's just seemed thrown in for "Girls get it done" reasons.
burkieim2025-11-28 20:26
I always kind of attributed it to hulk being the hulk for too long. Being the gladiator showed him a place where the “hulk” is loved and cheered now he’s just softer than he was
27Rench272025-11-28 23:02
Oh I like this idea too
Far_Demand_65862025-11-28 18:00
He's always angry
SmellsLikeHerb2025-11-28 18:19
That’s the problem. He should have been always angrier.
Agreed. There was a point where it felt like he was overwhelmed being..overwhelmed!
Wheel19942025-11-28 18:54
Hulk is just used to overpowering his opponents that didn’t work Thanos has Hulk’s strength with Cap’s level of hand to hand ability.
DoctorOddfellow19812025-11-28 19:01
This. I don't know how film Hulk works but comics Hulk explicitly works this way and he's been dropped a few times because he's gotten bumrushed. You either drop him in Round 1 or you've lost any advantage you've had.
hulkbuster189592025-11-28 19:12
Yup Spider-Man plan to take out the hulk is to hit banner so hard he leaves earths atmosphere before hulk comes out.
EggDogCat2025-11-29 01:44
Spider-Plan
maskaddict2025-11-28 20:10
I'd be surprised if MCU Hulk worked this way, since Bruce tells us "I put a bullet in my mouth, and the other guy spit it out." If Hulk came out fast enough to prevent a fired bullet from harming Banner, then his power-up must not be on much of a time constraint, no?
whatWHYok2025-11-28 22:08
That’s a fail-safe to prevent Banner from offing himself. Would probably require a considerable amount more power to level him up.
BoTheJoV32025-11-29 05:24
You should read immortal hulk. Banner can die but hulk revives him
Background_Honey91412025-11-29 07:59
In Age of Ultron, Tony used the Hulkbuster to knock him out, with one strike to the head. So it’s established you can take Hulk out with a quick and swift attack, as long as he doesn’t have time to recover.
Different-Island18712025-11-28 19:03
He got beat so fast all he started to feel was fear.
Long_Pig_Tailor2025-11-28 19:44
*This*. It's *also* that he doesn't have time to regroup and get pissed off, but this Hulk spent a number of years on Sakaar by this point so he's not even the more inexperienced fighter—versus smasher—he was previously (though he's certainly still not all that technically gifted, kind of by nature). He's primarily shocked/scared that Thanos is laying him out possibly faster than Hulk even tends to *think*.
Musekal2025-11-28 19:08
And MCU Hulk has never been established as having no upper limit to his strength directly related to his level of anger.
BeeCJohnson2025-11-28 19:23
Right. Hulk's prevailing emotion in that moment was shock and surprise, and then fear, not anger.
He would have worked up to anger, as that often follows shock and surprise and fear, but he didn't have the time.
notarobotpossibly2025-11-28 19:32
iirc he was also feeling pretty insecure around this time. I'd imagine that hinders his anger a bit.
matdevine212025-11-28 19:43
Exactly this, Thanos took Hulk by surprise with his raw power and fighting skill, the key to defeating Hulk is do it fast and overwhelm.
I’d also argue this version of Hulk wasn’t the most powerful either, intelligent and controlled (not as much as Banner Hulk we get later) but still not to the level of Avengers movie rage monster Hulk.
It’s interesting and weirdly unexplored since that the beating Thanos had given Hulk was so mentally destructive that rage hulk has refused to come out since forcing Banner to create the hybrid version.
KexyAlexy2025-11-28 19:57
How does that go with the fact that according to his own words Banner shot himself to the head and Hulk spat out the bullet?
I'm not trying to discredit you, I just sincerely don't know Hulk well enough to know the answer to that.
Brandonjh22025-11-29 03:45
Before he pulled the trigger he spent hours sitting there fighting his anger. Hulk was ready to emerge at that point
i_should_be_coding2025-11-28 17:42
First time Hulk felt fear most likely.
12715002025-11-28 17:42
Thanos was a much more experienced combatant, his opening move looks like some form of nerve strike. Hulk was a raw power brawler, no technique, and Thanos' skill took him apart.
Outside-Process-78442025-11-28 18:19
Yes!
Adventurous_Map33852025-11-28 18:22
Yeah but I thought the HULK was suppose to get bigger and stronger the more angrier he got!?!?! What happened to that!? He should have been able to smack Thanos around and rip his arm off with the gauntlet!
Qwirk2025-11-28 20:53
I would like to say this is true but Hulk had spent two and a half years in a gladiatorial arena by then.
The truth is, MCU's Hulk isn't on par with MC's Hulk.
midnightTimber2025-11-28 21:51
Two and a half years beating up on creatures weaker than him. Thor shows up and he gets his bell rung. I don't think they really demonstrated that he became a skilled fighter on Sakaar.
Altruistic-Dress-9682025-11-29 11:03
Two and a half years of stepping on ants does not a skilled fighter make.
AttackonCuttlefish2025-11-28 17:43
Hulk was too expensive for MCU.
jwbrkr742025-11-28 17:44
For continuity. If Hulk had beaten the snot out of Thanos, the story would pretty much be over right there.
Defiant_Wheel48882025-11-28 17:59
yeah lets see
1. Gamora killed him, but it turned out to be a Reality Stone trick.
2. Tony Stark landed a solid hit, but Thanos immediately overpowered him.
3. Doctor Strange used about half his arsenal of spells, but ultimately surrendered the Time Stone.
4. Cap and the rest of the team nearly stopped him when they tried to destroy the Mind Stone, but he reversed time and won anyway.
5. Thor brought him to his knees, but Thanos still snapped his fingers right in front of him.
Given all this, giving Hulk a strong scene wouldn’t have changed anything. Marvel never planned to utilize Hulk properly; their focus was always on the original trio. Hulk was mainly used for marketing, even faking the Hulk charge-shot in the trailer. if hulk is real wouldn’t transform from Banner anymore after seeing how Marvel keeps using him the same way Banner used him
jwbrkr742025-11-28 19:27
None of those things you listed happened in the first 10 mins of the movie. Which is my point. You don't take out the main villain in the first 10 mins... unless you got someone set up as the actually bigger villain. That ruins what you're trying to convey about him being such a bad ass.
OneXForreddit2025-11-28 22:00
Honestly the hulk didn't have to win. But seeing him go toe to toe with thanos on some level should have happened. Maybe Thanos throws him out of the ship and that's where the bifrost gets him from. But idk. What we got sucked all of the ass.
m_mason42025-11-28 17:44
They’ve said multiple times that they nerfed hulk in this fight. Instead of giving him plot armor they gave him plot kryptonite.
Cgi942025-11-28 17:44
A brawler encountering a mma fighter definitely had Hulk thinking about his mistake too much for anger to even come out😅
ThkAbootIt2025-11-28 18:02
Hulk doesn’t think, he’s just rage personified.
Salarian_American2025-11-28 17:45
He got scared instead
thrust-johnson2025-11-28 17:45
Hulk got scared, and being scared makes him less angry and less strong.
No-Sweet-63372025-11-28 17:45
Well this is the entire point of Hulk’s story over these few movies isn’t it. The real reason of course is to find ways to not have Hulk onscreen so Universal don’t try to trigger their distribution clause they still have, which is why he disappears into space for a while and then doesn’t show up in the final battle of Infinity War even though they showed him in the trailer and why he’s eventually replaced with Smart Hulk and etc etc.
Anyway, real life circumstances around the use of the character forced Marvel’s hand to have to find a way to write him offscreen for large periods of time. Having Hulk have a crisis of confidence after getting his ass beat for the first time is probably the best version of that we could’ve gotten.
UnlikelyStories2025-11-28 17:46
Thanos used one of his best tools. Fear. Its hard to get angry when you're busy being afraid. Banner has probably heard of Thanos from the Asgardians at this point. Their fear will have fuelled his own. Being informed a person is unstoppable by a powerful ally can lay the seed inside your mind. Then he sees his allies brought low by that very opponent which reinforces it.
Also its notable that Thanos is a -better fighter-. He is more skilled and adept, Bruce/Hulk being used to being able to win by dint of strength alone would not fare as well. When initially outstrengthed, then precision blows being used to disable and confuse, hulk is rattled. This I think is part of why Hulk later -fears- Thanos. Not just his strength being useless (though perhaps if he'd let go and raged out he might have done better) but because he was outmatched so much in skill as well.
daveknockwin2025-11-28 17:46
Because his power doesn't scale with anger like in the comics.
guythatplaysbass2025-11-28 17:46
thanos already has the strength stone by now right? that's the real reason he could win so easily?
Defiant_Wheel48882025-11-28 17:54
he not use power stone on hulk
Curlaub2025-11-28 17:46
He didnt have time. He went from "I got this" to "Oh crap" real quick
Scorpiodsu2025-11-28 17:47
I would imagine at that moment the shock and awe of getting his arse kicked was much more overwhelming than anger.
mutant502025-11-28 17:47
Disney forgot about that. They ruined the legacy off The INCREDIBLE HULK
Defiant_Wheel48882025-11-28 17:48
Hulk was already angry at Banner and humans, which is why he left Earth and ended up on Sakaar, where nobody cared if he hurt someone. He stayed in Hulk form for two years, evolved a bit, and learned to talk. The Russo brothers said the opening of *Infinity War* was meant to show how strong and dangerous Thanos is, so Thanos defeating Hulk in the first ten minutes was a deliberate shock for the audience. The real in-story reason is that Hulk wasn’t ready for the fight—he was forced out of Banner, wasn’t fighting with full rage or tactics, had just been injured fighting Hela’s monster, and MCU Hulk doesn’t get stronger when he is angrier like in comic or animation. instead,MCU he gets weaker when someone out-skills or overpowers him. Most of fans rant was that hulk is super charecter with healing factor bt still they neffed him.
Vigil_Zero2025-11-28 17:48
His anger was replaced by arousal.
Stmordred2025-11-28 17:49
Humans also get stronger when we're angry and adrenaline running, yk what happens when you're angry and surrounded by a pack of wolves or a family of bears?
Fhloston-Paradisio2025-11-28 17:50
The whole scene is idiotic. Hulk was coming off a battle with Fenris, who definitely hurt him worse than Thanos did but Hulk was not traumatized by that fight. And he had also just attacked Surtur, who was far stronger than Thanos and swatted Hulk away like a bug, but Hilk wasn't scared and wanted to go back for more.
The worst part is when Thanos seems to have to exert himself to lift Hulk and body slam him. If you are that strong, lifting Hulk's weight should be as hard as a regular human lifting a piece of paper.
TheMilkMan69422025-11-28 17:50
MCU hates hulk
Alone-Ad60202025-11-28 17:52
Not like it would help
Red_Panda_The_Great2025-11-28 17:52
I personally like to believe that after Ragnarok Banner and Hulk came to an agreement that Hulk needs to hold a little back so Bruce can come back.
If they had an agreement in Ragnarok (“We trust each other,” “We fight together,” etc.), Thanos wrecking Hulk so easily would feel like a betrayal of that pact.
Hulk refusing to come out afterward could be:
So yeah
AlwaysBitter1822025-11-28 17:52
He’s I hate MCU Hulk. He’s supposed to get stronger the more he takes on but they made him almost a weak link among the Avengers.
Bradley_Of_Thorofare2025-11-28 17:53
Because of the PLOT
ResidentAction3692025-11-28 17:53
Because marvel wants to make hybrid model of hulk to showcase intelligence of Bruce
LordCurlyy2025-11-28 17:53
Also think it’s because they were on a space ship so hulk was holding back a lot more
redsandsfort2025-11-28 17:54
It was out of respect. He saw Thanis was a good wrestler.
metalmankam2025-11-28 17:54
Wtf is with people's hulk obsession? People are always so mad if hulk is not 100% destroying anything and everything. Like he MUST be the strongest baddest biggest character in the whole world and nothing can hurt him. Nobody can hit him, no guns, no laser blasts, NOTHING can stop him ever EVER HES TOO STRONG. Except he's not, fuckin chill. Everyone has a weakness. Just being "the best" is incredibly boring. Hulk needs to lose to be interesting. But people are so fucking obsessed with him being completely untouchable no matter what.
DoctorOddfellow19812025-11-28 19:07
Nerds get invested in power fantasies.
Ziatch2025-11-28 17:54
He was scared and completely deflated in the face of defeat. He'd been winning for ages as the top guy and suddenly was severely outclassed and had nothing for it. Hulk felt weak and it didn't make him mad it made him close up. Like a loud bully who goes to high school and is suddenly the small fry. An angry animal that gets abused and is suddenly meek and wallows around sadly.
Liam_Roma_12342025-11-28 17:54
Can't focus on getting angry when you're too focused on not dying.
MrSlippifist2025-11-28 17:55
Because Marvel neither cares about nor has a desire to honor the source material.
LazyLurker292025-11-28 17:55
Who says he didn't? It just wasn't quick enough, and was probably mixed with fear. Thanos took him down in 30 seconds flat.
demonoddy2025-11-28 17:56
That’s not really something that has ever been shown in the MCU
Fl0ckwood2025-11-28 17:56
coz marvel was on a crusade to nerf Hulk to the ground
bertarama212025-11-28 17:56
Him getting angry really wouldn’t have don’t anything thanos had the power stone😭
Wialyatedris2025-11-28 17:56
I'm more interested in how Hulk lost in a power struggle, because in pure physical strength he was still stronger than Thanos, but somehow he was able to remove Hulk's hands from himself.
Liam_Roma_12342025-11-28 18:00
So wouldn't that mean he's not stronger than thanos in pure physical strength?
ProjectBackground5312025-11-28 17:57
He wasn’t given enough time. If you watch Age of Ultron, it takes him a bit to get going, but once he does he’s unstoppable.
Shadowhawk00002025-11-28 17:57
Cuz the marvel movies don't follow comics.
arkham10102025-11-28 17:58
Hulk is a creature of absolute emotion. He normally has a the 'fight' response, but when he was getting whupped on his 'flight' response took over. He has no power of real thinking, so after being beaten up so badly he simply retreated into Banner and refused to come out as he was terrified.
branduzzi2025-11-28 17:58
GET OVER IT
pfibraio2025-11-28 17:59
Cause the MCU Hulk is weak
Myhtological2025-11-28 18:02
He’s more advanced intelligence dulled his id.
Happyman3212025-11-28 18:03
Definition of plot armour. Some questions don’t have answers. Everyone can speculate but the truth is he got beat because they needed him beat.
EagleWolfTiger2025-11-28 18:03
I don’t mind Thanos beating Hulk. It was just too easy.
dpittnet2025-11-28 18:03
Because he got his ass kicked
mothershipq2025-11-28 18:04
Because the writers didn’t want that to happen.
Dlh20792025-11-28 18:45
Right?
It is blatant obvious that the purpose of that scene was to establish Thanos as a preeminent hand to hand fighter and an absolute force of strength.
Hulk just shaking off punches and getting angrier does nothing to accomplish that.
BambooSound2025-11-28 20:17
Nor did the writers of 90% of the comics they've fought in
OfficiallyJoeBiden2025-11-28 18:05
I still hate how they turned dude into a bitch after getting his ass whooped
DillysRevenge2025-11-28 18:07
It was the calmness in which Thanos delivered the ass beating. It wasn’t a buildup of anger that he needs to get stronger. Plus hulks current internal conflict that shows at the beginning of infinity wars. You could ask why it took so long for hulk to make himself known in that scene? Somehow Thanos took over that entire ship and didn’t see the hulk once in that time? Hulk would have been the forefront of that fight but lokis dramatic wordplay on “we have a hulk” was probably the reasoning.
Castille_922025-11-28 18:10
Canon reason: Hulk was tired of Bruce only using him to fight strong stuff. Hulk was his own person for two years before this movie and suddenly went back to just being cannon fodder.
Actual reason: Cuz Thanos OP and they had to demonstrate it.
BlackBullsLA972025-11-28 18:16
I just watched the scene again and man, my man Bruce got whooped!
MPD19782025-11-28 18:17
The Worf effect, in action.
NoahManiacal2025-11-28 18:17
Nerfie nerf nerf
eternali172025-11-28 18:18
The Russos were trying to show you something specific.
Hacks
CommanderYin2025-11-28 18:19
Instead of getting angry he got scared. Hulk had been destroying losers for two years.
Then finally an actual match came in and Thor was about to humiliate him before the Grandmaster pulled the plug on Thor.
In Infinity war the first thing we see is that Thanos had humiliated a whole ship full of Asgardians, including Thor. Automatically we can assume this guy is stronger or just as strong as the both of them.
Thanos at this point is very aware of the Avengers. His forces had a taste of defeat during the battle of New York. What are we dealing with here? An Asgardian, a couple of human assassins, an enhanced soldier, a rich boy in a suit, and then there’s the Hulk who one shotted a Leviathan.
He must have had years to study the Hulk and he figured “if I can whoop his ass before he gets stronger then he is no problem.” And that’s what we saw.
A pampered Hulk that had been fighting losers for two years Vs. Thanos a warlord that never stopped fighting.
Think of it as Batman vs Bane in The Dark Knight Rises.
Bruce buys in into the game thinking he can just put on the costume and be just as good. Then Bane, Mr. no days off, shows up and destroys the bat while monologging.
Same thing.
Wirexia12025-11-28 18:20
Somehow he didn't
hewasaraverboy2025-11-28 18:21
Originally hulk was supposed to bust out of the hulk buster suit in the end of IW once they became overwhelmed
Unfortunately they cut that out
Kirmit232025-11-28 18:21
I actually think Thanos had intel on Hulk like he who Stark was, so he knew he had to take him down quickly. It would’ve been great if we’d seen Thanos had been studying the Avengers over years, finding their weaknesses.
ghostgamer82025-11-28 18:22
Because the story needed to happen and they need a comparison to Thanos’ strength
Brute_Squad_442025-11-28 18:22
Because if they put Worf in there, it's copyright infringement.
alenpetak112025-11-28 18:23
Is he stupid?
SamXTeck2025-11-28 18:23
Getting his but handed to him for the first time threw him off his game
Ragnarok_6192025-11-28 18:25
Comic purists know Thanos beat hulk multiple times.
AscendedXSaiyan2025-11-28 18:25
He WAS getting angrier but Thanos has actual fighting experience and was targeting certain areas to slow him down....before finishing him
Alleggsander2025-11-28 18:25
“Why” a lot of things when it comes to MCU Hulk.
Rogue_Shinigami8842025-11-28 18:29
I get why we gotta do an in-universe explaination but,. not to ruin the fun, its all for the sake of the plot and how they had to emphasize thanos' power. They chose to compromise with nerfing The Hulk who is an already under-utilized character thats also very difficult to write about. maybe some of directors or whoevers in charge did care. But I doubt if they even had the time about how they would execute to utilize the hulk, when these movies are being made in just a limited amount of time they gotta be wise.
Trini2Bone2025-11-28 18:30
Still one of my favourite cinematic beatdowns. Thanos put the paws on that boy
GroceryIntelligent322025-11-28 18:31
The best in-universe theory is that Thanos employed a quick, tactical knockout. He didn't let Hulk ramp up his rage to world-breaking levels; it was a speed/skill victory, not a brawl.
cardew-vascular2025-11-28 18:32
Thanos' Strength always confused me honestly in the movies. Captain Marvel took out a spaceship and like a minute later was struggling to keep his hand open.
poopoobuttholes2025-11-28 18:34
So the story can happen I guess. He got pimp-slapped by Thanos and started whimpering instead, then got his ass handed to him.
Insane to think that a Thanos pimp slap hurts more than being tossed by Surtr but what do I know lol.
Kakageta_19642025-11-28 18:35
Hulk needs time to get angry. If you want to defeat him, you do it quickly and decisively. No second guessing, which is exactly how Thanos did it. Hulk was too busy experiencing bewilderment and shock when he faced Thanos in order to feel the anger that fuels him.
Ok-Promotion-38542025-11-28 18:38
hulk was injured from that wolf in Ragnarok right, plus Thanos went for all the weak spots, like the glands iguess
Desi_Vigor2025-11-28 18:39
This is also not the full-on savage/child-like Hulk—he’s getting smarter, calmer. If he’s beaten fast enough before he could get angry enough to become overpowered, then this makes sense. I still didn’t like it, course—they used the Hulk to elevate Thanos and never really redeemed him by having Hulk whoop his ass in a second encounter.
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My reaction during that scene wasn't "Oh my god, look at how powerful Thanos is"- it was "Oh, look- Hulk is the new Worf."
Hulk finally understood what his own foes experience.
I’m pretty sure it was always for plot reasons.
Hulk's whole personality is that the angrier he gets, the stronger he gets! I learned that growing up with the Marvel animated movies by Lionsgate Films. That's one of the few reasons why I didn't like the Avengers Endgame film. Sorry!
I'll buy that Thanos could defeat him but not that damn easily.
Didn't it take Thanos less than a minute to defeat him?
It would have taken more than a minute, though
Thanos was brilliant, very strong and ancient. He was a General. He understood combat. I believe he could have defeated the Hulk.
That's why he went into the lab during the blip and created Professor Hulk.
Beaten into fear. Love it
He went right thru caps shield which shows what quality weapons he's using, he is part eternal right? Kinda like he's his own justice league 😜
His people died because they refused to go along with his plan to cull the population. It was insane. But it would have worked. They didn’t have an Infinity Gauntlet to make resources. So there is an argument to be made that Thanos was right.
And as a result, Thanos becomes obsessed, and feels vindicated to the point of zealotry. He’s insane. He only sees one possible solution. He *can only see* one possible solution.
Surely someone would have pointed out the option to create more resources instead. But we can easily assume he figured out some way to convince himself that wouldn’t work. In his mind, the only conceivable solution is killing half of all life. He is committed to the idea to such an extent that it is ingrained in his sense of self.
But then, in End Game, the facade falls away. The core of his motivation is the desire to not only execute his plan, but to be thanked for it. That’s the truth he himself likely didn’t even realize. He was scorned by his own people, who died because they wouldn’t listed to him. They “didn’t have the will to do what must be done”. He expected to be hailed a hero, not branded insane and exiled.
So when it becomes clear that no matter what, nobody is going to thank him, he immediately shifts to "I will shred this universe down to its last atom and then, with the Stones you've collected for me, create a new one teeming with life that knows not what it has lost, but only what it has been given. A grateful universe".
Thanos wasn’t stupid. Far from it. He was mad.
People being short sighted is central to his beliefs but he fails to see the irony. He’s the mad titan.
Double the resources is fine until the population quadruples thanks to all the resources. By doing this he felt like everyone would self-cull from then on.
Just imagining incel thanos desperately trying to win over an entity that couldn’t care less in a big budget action movie would be hilarious. And incredibly stupid.
If Meowmewmir was an axe or sword, I imagine it could start to cut through Cap's shield.
In infinity war, he’s a pussy who refuses to come out, even though Banner himself has the courage to fight.
In endgame, he’s physically smaller, less bulky, and mostly a laid back, comedic-relief character. It’s basically just Banner. We don’t get a satisfying payoff imo. Raganarok characterised him really well, and finally gave him a personality. Then he’s basically killed off.
While I can see their point of view, they also say that he "deserved to get nerfed" which I don't agree with. Hulk, as a founding Avengers member, deserved just as much of a redemption arc as any of the other founders. Just seems like bias and lazy writing on their part when it comes to Hulk.
They also seemed to prioritize showing other characters get one over on Thanos like Captain Marvel and Scarlet Witch. With Scarlet Witch, I was somewhat okay with it because she wanted revenge for Vision but Captain Marvel's just seemed thrown in for "Girls get it done" reasons.
yeah tony agree brother.
He would have worked up to anger, as that often follows shock and surprise and fear, but he didn't have the time.
I’d also argue this version of Hulk wasn’t the most powerful either, intelligent and controlled (not as much as Banner Hulk we get later) but still not to the level of Avengers movie rage monster Hulk.
It’s interesting and weirdly unexplored since that the beating Thanos had given Hulk was so mentally destructive that rage hulk has refused to come out since forcing Banner to create the hybrid version.
I'm not trying to discredit you, I just sincerely don't know Hulk well enough to know the answer to that.
The truth is, MCU's Hulk isn't on par with MC's Hulk.
1. Gamora killed him, but it turned out to be a Reality Stone trick.
2. Tony Stark landed a solid hit, but Thanos immediately overpowered him.
3. Doctor Strange used about half his arsenal of spells, but ultimately surrendered the Time Stone.
4. Cap and the rest of the team nearly stopped him when they tried to destroy the Mind Stone, but he reversed time and won anyway.
5. Thor brought him to his knees, but Thanos still snapped his fingers right in front of him.
Given all this, giving Hulk a strong scene wouldn’t have changed anything. Marvel never planned to utilize Hulk properly; their focus was always on the original trio. Hulk was mainly used for marketing, even faking the Hulk charge-shot in the trailer. if hulk is real wouldn’t transform from Banner anymore after seeing how Marvel keeps using him the same way Banner used him
Anyway, real life circumstances around the use of the character forced Marvel’s hand to have to find a way to write him offscreen for large periods of time. Having Hulk have a crisis of confidence after getting his ass beat for the first time is probably the best version of that we could’ve gotten.
Also its notable that Thanos is a -better fighter-. He is more skilled and adept, Bruce/Hulk being used to being able to win by dint of strength alone would not fare as well. When initially outstrengthed, then precision blows being used to disable and confuse, hulk is rattled. This I think is part of why Hulk later -fears- Thanos. Not just his strength being useless (though perhaps if he'd let go and raged out he might have done better) but because he was outmatched so much in skill as well.
The worst part is when Thanos seems to have to exert himself to lift Hulk and body slam him. If you are that strong, lifting Hulk's weight should be as hard as a regular human lifting a piece of paper.
If they had an agreement in Ragnarok (“We trust each other,” “We fight together,” etc.), Thanos wrecking Hulk so easily would feel like a betrayal of that pact.
Hulk refusing to come out afterward could be:
So yeah
It is blatant obvious that the purpose of that scene was to establish Thanos as a preeminent hand to hand fighter and an absolute force of strength.
Hulk just shaking off punches and getting angrier does nothing to accomplish that.
Actual reason: Cuz Thanos OP and they had to demonstrate it.
Hacks
Then finally an actual match came in and Thor was about to humiliate him before the Grandmaster pulled the plug on Thor.
In Infinity war the first thing we see is that Thanos had humiliated a whole ship full of Asgardians, including Thor. Automatically we can assume this guy is stronger or just as strong as the both of them.
Thanos at this point is very aware of the Avengers. His forces had a taste of defeat during the battle of New York. What are we dealing with here? An Asgardian, a couple of human assassins, an enhanced soldier, a rich boy in a suit, and then there’s the Hulk who one shotted a Leviathan.
He must have had years to study the Hulk and he figured “if I can whoop his ass before he gets stronger then he is no problem.” And that’s what we saw.
A pampered Hulk that had been fighting losers for two years Vs. Thanos a warlord that never stopped fighting.
Think of it as Batman vs Bane in The Dark Knight Rises.
Bruce buys in into the game thinking he can just put on the costume and be just as good. Then Bane, Mr. no days off, shows up and destroys the bat while monologging.
Same thing.
Unfortunately they cut that out
Insane to think that a Thanos pimp slap hurts more than being tossed by Surtr but what do I know lol.